Cost containment

Paper trail

by Paul Markgraff

In our last issue of V-Mail, we again used our fictional distributor Primo Industrial Supply to pose a question that affects many of our readers.

As usual, Primo Industrial Supply sales manager Kevin Fitzpatrick had a problem. His salespeople demonstrated that they understood selling value, but they wouldn’t fill out the standardized forms Fitzpatrick created to document value.

We asked readers how they would address this problem. Is standardized documentation really necessary? Would you attach a financial incentive to filling out the paperwork? Why should salespeople spend time filling out paperwork instead of selling product?

Normally, we take a few of the good answers and craft a story that emphasizes the right way to address the problems faced by Fitzpatrick and Primo. However, this particular question received such a great response, we’d like to share more than a few of the answers with you.


From Carl Norris, president and owner of Rogers Industrial Supply:
“I faced this for years and finally decided a small incentive to do it and severe repercussions NOT to do it was fair. We document customer savings, activity reporting, dead stock sales, problem solving and other activities on a standard form. The form is Excel-based, has drop-down menus for choosing the correct activity and is e-mailed to HQ. I review each form and initial it, noting approval and also for my information.

“Various activities carry points and there are a minimum number of points that MUST be earned each quarter. The repercussions for not reaching minimum points for one, two and three consecutive quarters was detailed to each sales person in writing. Plus, each can earn from $300-400 per quarter based on points earned. We have been doing this for six quarters now. The sales personnel that do the activities and document it have seen an increase in their territories and have become proficient at the documentation process.”


From Jack Enns, general manager of A. Adams Supply (1969) Ltd:
“I find this to be an interesting question. While on the surface the question seems straightforward, I believe that there has to be something more to this issue. I am of the opinion that while it is never management by committee, in this situation, I believe that the sales manager needs to find out what the objection is to filling out the form. I have always struggled with attaching financial incentive to something that is defined as ’a condition of employment, or part of the job.’ Therefore, I feel that I would not offer a financial incentive. 

“I would review the situation in its proper context, because there has to be a motive, which they need to understand in order to fill out the paperwork. Yes, they should find the time to fill out the forms. The need to track and the ability to demonstrate value is critical. These same salespeople will complain loudly when they lose the account, and their revenue is reduced. Yet, they will have nothing to prove to their customers that they deserve to keep the account.

“Without documentation, on what basis will they prove they have in fact been delivering the value-added services? The answer is this simple. Salespeople who understand their role will see the benefit of documentation, not just the documentation on selling value-added, but all documentation. This only makes them better sales people, and therefore makes them money, to say nothing about the relationship that they are building between themselves and the customer.  Positive reinforcement and aiding them in understanding the needs should result in the salespeople feeling more than justified in ’making’ the time to do the documentation.”


From Lex Silbernagel, vice president of supply chain service for Border States Industries:
“Customers need to have a sense of value, performance and areas for continuous improvement -- either formally or informally. Documentation is essential in order to provide this information. Not having this information creates risk that the customer will eventually go away. Long term, it should not be an option and needs to be tied to compensation.”


From Gerry Braasch, president of Braasch Industrial Sales Inc.:
“I can appreciate filling out a form for a short period of time to acquire market information. However, most successful salespeople see any ‘unnecessary’ paperwork as a limitation on their ability to earn a greater income (commission). I would think a financial incentive would help get them to fill out the documents. Another way, if possible, would be to have a pre-filled-out form listing the customer's name and then make the body of the form a check-off of various choices to get the info you are looking for. That makes it easy and quick for the salesperson to fill out the form.”


From Bob Smykla, sales manager for Diamond Saw Works Inc.:
“I would have the salesmen involved in redesigning the forms. Then I would ensure that they have opportunity to use ‘administrative’ time every week to complete the forms. Finally, I would attach a negative incentive, no commissions on the item/account if the paperwork does not ‘catch up’ the next pay cycle.”


From Roger Junnarkar, vice president of sales for Advantage Gases and Tools:
“If filling out the standardized form is part of their job description, salespeople should be made aware of it during the hiring process. At the hiring time, an explanation is necessary to support its importance as a valuable sales tool for follow-up and its use as a business development guide for future. It also brings the sales manager and the salesperson an opportunity to have a one-on-one session on a regular basis for effective communication. There should be absolutely no financial incentive to fill the forms.”


From Shane E. Davis, northeast region sales manager for Dynabrade Inc.:
“The challenge has to do with mindset and habit. Flexibility, patience and incentives come into play with sales teams. Information, and what you do with that information, can be one of the most important factors in long-term success. Filling out paperwork just to fill out paperwork is unproductive. You must prove to the team that what you are requesting will benefit them, their customers and the company. My recommendations are: You must have a complete understanding of your goals, present those goals to your team in a positive manner and use the least time-infringing methods as possible. The KISS method for reporting is best with salesmen.”


From Robert K. Gladwish, president of Ranson Industrial:
“If they do not keep track of cost savings, then they are likely going to lose the contract to their competitor when it comes due. If they keep track of the cost savings, the contract will be renewed. Then, everyone wins!”


From R. J. Almeida, regional manager for Tyrolit:
“If they won’t fill out the standardized form, they don’t truly understand selling value. Being a manufacturer, we know everything has to be proven. Cost-per-piece produced is the future and it demands documented facts.”


From Ron Meisinger, owner of Atwood Industries:
“For very successful documented savings that results in an order, we offer a $25 bonus at monthly meetings. Our best salespeople have at least four to eight projects all the time. That’s why they’re the best.”


From Ray Lombardi of Agilent Technologies:
“[Fitzpatrick] has not communicated the value to his customers or his salespeople. He may believe in it but they do not. He needs to define the benefits for the salespeople in ‘their’ language, not his. One way to do this is to take a leader within his force that others respect and get his/her input to modify the presentation and the form itself that speaks more to the needs of the field rep, not the management view of what is needed.

“No financial incentive is needed if the value is true; salespeople will naturally gravitate to tools they believe in. Salespeople should only fill out paperwork that helps build sales or communicate problems/obstacles or success that can be capitalized on.”


From John S. Reeder, sales representative for Meggan Sales Associates LLC:
“His salespeople understand selling value, but they won’t fill out the standardized forms he created to document value. I would have to see the form to answer this but if it shows documented cost saving for their customer, the salespeople do not understand value selling.

“Why should salespeople spend time filling out paperwork instead of selling product? If they do not show the product has true monetary value to their customer they will lose the customer when he starts looking at the product as a commodity.

“How would you address this problem? Preach that their long term financial income from these customers is dependent on documenting their value.

“Unfortunately a great deal of paperwork that is requested is not necessary. It takes away from selling time and family time. This is not that type of paperwork!”


From Jim Murrell, vice president of business development for Ashburn Chemical Technologies:
The process of finding cost savings for customers should be an important part of every distributor salesperson's job description. I have seen and administered several surveys in which industrial end users stated they did not want, nor would they pay for, distributor sales activities that did not provide measurable value.

The distributor salesperson has other responsibilities (such as promoting high profit lines and supporting the distributor's marketing plan) but their job description and part of their compensation should be tied to providing documented cost savings to their customers. I know of several distributors who have implemented formal customer cost savings programs and made them part of the salesperson's compensation. It seems the appropriate figure is around 10 percent of the salesperson's total compensation tied to documented and customer approved cost savings.

One last point. In order for this concept to be successful, the customer must be continually made aware of the cost savings efforts being made on their behalf. The cost savings must be documented, summarized, and presented to the customer's management in periodic formal reviews.


From Eric Pfeiffer, business development manager for Simonds International:
The first step is to help the salespeople understand that the properly completed forms help keep the competition outside instead of letting them in the door. Cost savings documentation is a testimonial and its proof that has to be beaten in the real world. The competition can more easily win when testing against undocumented "folklore."

The second step is to tie a financial reward to the completion of the forms in order to reinforce good habits.

So, there's a minor financial gain for completing the form as a means of securing longer-term financial gain by holding the business.


Thanks to everyone who participated!

This article was prepared exclusively for ValueAddedPartners.org. Copyright 2007.

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